I have used Tekin and love it as a racer but just the other day I threw a Castle Creations Mamba Max Pro Setup into my car and it hauled Ass. It was the same exact Kv as my Tekin motor but for some reason it went a lot faster and it had a lot more torque. If you want you can read up on the new Castle Creation Product upgrades that they did on all of their products.[URL="http://www.rcnightmare.com/forum/electric-rc-general-discussions/1601-castle-creations-product-makeover.html"]http://www.rcnightmare.com/forum/electric-rc-general-discussions/1601-castle-creations-product-makeover.html[/URL]

